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#1
   11/29/2010 3:39 AM
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trooprm, everyone has known for a very long time that you are extremely stupid and arrogant. a lot of people have seriously speculated that you had genuine psychological problems. but you were pretty harmless until yesterday.
 
i hope for this game's sake your unbelievably stupid rage-fueled actions haven't done any more harm to this game. the really funny part was that you said jelly and gozy "killed this game" in the same post as you decided to help 0x90 out. my god, i didn't think anyone could be that stupid.
 
you ought to be banned from this game altogether. you deserve it.
 
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#2
   11/29/2010 9:17 AM
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Not as stupid as the people who trusted him and also had him run their internal beta testing server for them (Reborn).
 
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#3
   11/29/2010 10:35 AM
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Iran, you have no clue what you are talking about, nor was it fueled by rage lol if you read my chats on jelly server from last night, I was actually in a pretty joking mood
 
Yes, its people like @ jelly, goztow, reborn, and kinda yourself spoony that killed this game, not me. You guys are the type that have driven countless useful people away from this community when they realize its just not worth it like I have.
 
I've been treated like a dog lately, so I finally decided to act like one. Renegade will remain relatively cheat free for now, enjoy it while you can.
 
Im not coming back to renegade, Ive already unistalled it and given away most of my serials, don't you worry about that, but I'd apreciate not being banned from here (yet) while I still care enough to rebuttal your points.



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 Edited By BoSNiaN [ 11/29/2010 10:37:01 AM ]
 
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#4
   11/29/2010 11:30 AM
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Yes, its people like @ jelly, goztow, reborn, and kinda yourself spoony that killed this game, not me. You guys are the type that have driven countless useful people away from this community when they realize its just not worth it like I have.
I must admit I was surprised you left my name out of your original people-who-killed-Renegade list. i'm not aware of anything you can say about any of these four names which would come within a million miles of what you just did.
 
I've been treated like a dog lately, so I finally decided to act like one. Renegade will remain relatively cheat free for now, enjoy it while you can.
i don't actually think you've been treated like the cheat-enabling scum you've just demonstrated yourself to be. you've been treated like a delusional idiot, certainly...
 
Im not coming back to renegade, Ive already unistalled it and given away most of my serials, don't you worry about that,
See you in six months then.
 
but I'd apreciate not being banned from here (yet) while I still care enough to rebuttal your points.
Oh really? Rebutting my points? Then may I divert you back to renegadeforums.com, when you were absolutely astonished to learn that I didn't trust you? (you certainly hammered that point home, didn't you?)
 
Trooprm02: Well, your argument got flipped around pretty quick...didn't think I'd respond lol? Just because they didn't specifically ask you not to spread links on their private webserver, is not the same as giving you permission.

Regardless, its clear whose done a 360 flip here and for what reasons (ie: making **** up again), so don't bother responding because I won't be.

Spoony: No? Everything I've said has been true. Again.
Why don't you ask BlackIntel whether they objected to you using the pointsfix in your server?
I'm afraid I've got to challenge you to reply. Clearly I haven't "done a 360 flip" on anything here, never mind that - let's focus on "making **** up again". "again" means that -a- i'm making stuff up here, and -b- i've done it before. So, either back up both of those assertions, or admit you just lied. Thanks.

a couple of other relevant replies from other people...
Goztow: BI agreed for the pointsfix to be made public. They thought it already was public in the first place, when I asked if I could release it, IIRC.
EvilWhiteDragon: Troop, you're talking **** again.
We did at some point give the pointfix to Crimson, Jelly, and a short while after that CW/Spoony. Spoony was allowed to use it for Clanwar servers, whether public or private.
TK2 also had a copy, but that was because at the time they were our partners.
 
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#5
   11/29/2010 11:38 AM
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You have never been useful to this game. Slightly entertaining until a certain point, yes, but never useful. You knew very well people got banned for posting the building bar cheat in the past, so it should come to no surprise that that happened to you.
 
I can't believe anyone trusted you anywhere near TT-code. I don't know who did that but it was very naive in the first place. I don't know how anyone could ever think you would ever be more than what you ever were: an annoying troll.
 
If everyone treats you "like a dog", then you may start to wonder if you owuldn't be better off to **** off. This community doesn't need you and it certainly won't need you anymore now. What you did was not just selfish and stupid. Blaming someone else for the harm you caused shows your lack of responsibility. You could at least stand up for your acts. In that sens, 0x90 is at least honnest about being a fag.
 
Once again you proove everyone that thought you were a huge idiot right. I guess that's the only positive note in all this. It's funny how all these retards feel the need to leave Renegade "with a big bang", you're going in the same row as dead6re and some others. Not something to be very proud of, but whatever.
 
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#6
   11/29/2010 11:41 AM
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Replying to post #5   11/29/2010 11:38 AM

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quoting: Goztow
I can't believe anyone trusted you anywhere near TT-code. I don't know who did that but it was very naive in the first place.

it was worse than naive. amazingly, the person who did that took a moment to ask the rest of us whether trooprm should be let in TT (a laughable question from the outset) and i said no he can't be trusted. iran was correct, it was bollock-brained stupidity, if not malicious stupidity as we see from trooprm himself.
 
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BoSNiaN  
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#7
   11/29/2010 11:44 AM
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Replying to post #4   11/29/2010 11:30 AM

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quoting: Spoony
 i'm not aware of anything you can say about any of these four names which would come within a million miles of what you just did.


Before all this, that was not sure. Now I am proving a point. p.s: goztow banned be from renforums earlier this week for "posting cheats" so don't say they didn't call me that.
 
@goztow, you sir are a retard. YOU have done nothing for this game, you are not even a good player, nor a programmer. You are just a forum troll who hosts a server nobody plays on, whose on a power trip. Im using you as my example, but everyone else useful who left Renegade had people like you to blame in their case.
 
When people who have no clue how to play this game, or ban you without a chance to appeal because of personal reasons, this game deserves it. I've done nothing wrong, I just acted exactly with how you expected me too, enjoy the consequences.



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 Edited By BoSNiaN [ 11/29/2010 11:53:06 AM ]
 
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#8
   11/29/2010 11:51 AM
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aww I missed the renedrama! 
 
What happened?
 
Someone let Troop into TT, Troop got code, then posted it for 0x90 or something?  I assume the original posting is deleted?
 
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BoSNiaN  
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#9
   11/29/2010 11:54 AM
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Nope, I posted it publically and the post is still up at ucforums.
 
200+ downloads since last night and counting, if renegade isn't dead already, it will be now.



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 Edited By BoSNiaN [ 11/29/2010 12:04:43 PM ]
 
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#10
   11/29/2010 12:01 PM
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omfg... wow lol.  Do we have absolute retards running TT or what?  TT's source code released to unknown cheats forum?  ........................... ****ing great.  Go Tit Patch!
 
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#11
   11/29/2010 12:11 PM
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How could this happen Spoon?
 
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#12
   11/29/2010 12:30 PM
posting in thread: (why are some people so ****ing stupid?)
               
good question whiskey, my original thread title is a rephrasing of that question. jonwil did something unbelievably stupid, without the consent of the rest of TT and against my own advice.
 
Before all this, that was not sure. Now I am proving a point.
you're certainly proving my point - the very brief but important one i made to jonwil when he asked whether to let you be a part of TT, i.e. "no he can't be trusted"
 
p.s: goztow banned be from renforums earlier this week for "posting cheats" so don't say they didn't call me that.
using files that are designated by that site to be disallowed? you have no case there, none.
 
@goztow, you sir are a retard. YOU have done nothing for this game, you are not even a good player, nor a programmer. You are just a forum troll who hosts a server nobody plays on, whose on a power trip. Im using you as my example, but everyone else useful who left Renegade had people like you to blame in their case.
i have long considered gozy a better player than you. i'm always glad to see him show up for the renforums matches, and i've always been consistent in saying no to the question of whether you can play for us. yes, i rate him as a better player than you. this is probably the point at which you change the subject and talk about 1v1s.
 
why that is relevant to your point is beyond me, if you were the best player in the history of renegade (hitman, sit this out please) you'd still be a ****ing retard right now
 
nor a programmer? neither am i, nor are a lot of people. there are other stuff you can do besides that, important stuff.
forum troll, oh my. pot, kettle? name a single renegade forum where you're remotely welcome by anybody? even the cheaters don't seem to have warmed to you.
host a server nobody plays on? we had some great games on gozy's server yesterday and we're gonna do more. i don't recall particularly enjoying any games in your server.
 
When people who have no clue how to play this game, or ban you without a chance to appeal because of personal reasons, this game deserves it.
who the **** are you to decide what this game deserves?
 
I've done nothing wrong, I just acted exactly with how you expected me too, enjoy the consequences.
no, we didn't expect you to assist the cheat-makers in their efforts to make cheats. we certainly expected you to act like a delusional petulant *****, because it's how you always act. you're going back to your "act how you're treated" point. we didn't treat you the way you just acted; otherwise you'd have been banned from an awful lot of renegade things.
 
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BoSNiaN  
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#13
   11/29/2010 12:31 PM
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@whiskey's pm, I won't say how I got the code, jonwil had nothing to do with that nor did he let me on the TT team (I met him quite a ways later).
 
This could have all been averted...I even offered up more of my time to help TT be released sooner by creating an updated version of all the stock maps to fix glitches/exploits/etc but Spoony and EWD did not want my help appearently....this will be my last post here, I won't lie and say im not sad im leaving, ive been playing this game for 8 years and I always thought id be one of the last to be playing it. It just didn't work out that way....
 
 
I've met some great people on this game, hopefully we can still keep intouch, but for the most part goodbye Renegade.

TROOPRM02 2002-2010, HEADSHOTS ONLY WHEN HES WANTSSS TOOOO
 
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#14
   11/29/2010 12:37 PM
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This could have all been averted...I even offered up more of my time to help TT be released sooner by creating an updated version of all the stock maps to fix glitches/exploits/etc but Spoony and EWD did not want my help appearently....
i didn't say i would refuse your help, i said you could not be trusted with important stuff or should be a member of TT. i wasn't aware at the time how absolutely dead right you would prove me.
i specifically said (in response to jonwil's question where he mentioned the maps) that if you can help us with stuff then by all means you can give it to us.
 
and even if we "didn't want your help", don't act like this (or anything else you've said) would remotely justify the unbelievably pathetic thing you've just done. be honest for the first time and just say it was rage-fueled malice.



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 Edited By Spoony [ 11/29/2010 12:37:19 PM ]
 
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#15
   11/29/2010 12:48 PM
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i would be more than glad to sit this one out chief spoony, i am already quite pleased with such lots of renedrama to read. i mean who still really believed in TT eitherway? sure u could count em on one hand
 
i think ren has  been dead enough for the last 3 years therefor people seem to think that they cannot be missed when actually not a single one cares if they stay or not... troop, your only 1 player on a entire C&C videogame that was once succesfull, sorry if anyone gave u the impression that u even mattered in any way.



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 Edited By HTMN47 [ 11/29/2010 12:55:09 PM ]
 
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#16
   11/29/2010 1:51 PM
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Don't let the door hit u on your way out, Troop!
 
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#17
   11/29/2010 2:23 PM
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I'm stunned, absolutely stunned.
 
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#18
   11/29/2010 2:44 PM
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I've only read about 5 minutes of some of the convo's included in Reneleaks, and already I've found that server owners, including Troop, can search your entire harddrive using a private Brenbot plugin.  Scripts left open a loopwhole allowing it.  Here's the txt:
 

Quoting...

"- [D4M1R] says:
 now 1 thing im not supposed to talk about (lol) is another anticheat method
 which is actually in existance already, but appearently nobody but a few of us are supposed to know about....
 mapch.
 its almost in the same boat tho...if more people know about it, the less effective it will become
 I guess thats why we were asked to keep quiet about it
 know what im talking about?
jonathanwilson623@hotmail.com says:
 no
 what is this mapch?
- [D4M1R] says:
 server console command
 im pretty sure the client (3.4.4) has the matching code for it tho....
 initially was designed to be a simple command to check if a player has map example.mix
 but with modified scripts, the .mix extension limitation was removed
 and with a (private) matching brenbot plugin
 you could run a command like !search example.exe, example.dll, example.w3d etc
 search the clients data folder essentially
 (effective for things like bighead, RoF, big bodies, and even advanatge skins)
 THEN I realized wildcard even work
 so I could search a ingame players entire c:\ drive lol
 ./././././rgh/ for example and etc
jonathanwilson623@hotmail.com says:
 mapch as implemented by me in scripts has no check to see what file to check for
 its not locked to .mix
- [D4M1R] says:
 "has no check to see what file to check for"?
jonathanwilson623@hotmail.com says:
 I mean its not locked to .mix
 or any other extention
 it will check anything
- [D4M1R] says:
 ah
jonathanwilson623@hotmail.com says:
 in any case it was intended for map checks
- [D4M1R] says:
 well did you know about the wilcard thing?   or did you ever think about using it as an anticheat?
jonathanwilson623@hotmail.com says:
 I have the code in front of me, wildcard shouldnt work
- [D4M1R] says:
 it does lol
jonathanwilson623@hotmail.com says:
 if it does anything, its giving false results
- [D4M1R] says:
 ../
 are you sure?
 I put test.txt in a random directory, and it found it\
jonathanwilson623@hotmail.com says:
 oh so you mean ../ amd not *.*
- [D4M1R] says:
 yes, ../
jonathanwilson623@hotmail.com says:
 ok
 in that case yes it would work
- [D4M1R] says:
 
jonathanwilson623@hotmail.com says:
 its not intended to be used like that
 but I have no plans to change the command (since doing so wouldnt matter)
 well wouldnt help
- [D4M1R] says:
 leave it if anything,"

End Quote

 
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Iran  
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#19
   11/29/2010 5:40 PM
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it can't search your entire hard drive, because of a bug in it you can use the function to check if a specific file exists in any part of the HDD, but it won't actually list the content of a drive or folder, you need to specifically say what file you want to check exists or not. This is used on some servers to detect a few cheats, but is of limited use. I''ve posted a quick analysis of the Renegade source code files in the thread on Jelly, I'll take a more detailed look at it tomorrow but it doesn't seem to contain anything that can be exploited to the extent of most if not outright all of RGH's features. 
 
If you read the convos, the current scripts.dll 4.0 isn't compatible with all the released versions of RGH, because the code changed too much. 
 
EDIT: could someone tell Retardin on the renforums that he's a ****ing retard and a ****head 



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 Edited By Iran [ 11/29/2010 6:09:02 PM ]
 
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#20
   11/30/2010 11:54 AM
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suppose this **** is going to be extended 5 more years rofl.. not that anyone was actually thinking it would even come out gj letting work of 5 years getting fcked up by 1 retard lol
 
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#21
   12/1/2010 12:46 PM
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renardin is bad i agree
 
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#22
   12/1/2010 6:38 PM
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lol, you guys are all talking like the US government gave out there nuclear weapons to Iran. Yet all that was given was some stupid thing that was never going to be released anyway. Its been a few days and it seems rens still alive as much as it was a day be4 this happened. Life goes on. Time to get over it.
 
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#23
   12/3/2010 11:01 AM
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hahahaha...
 
troop that is so freaking nerdy, said it so many times before but get a life...
 
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#24
   12/4/2010 9:13 PM
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ok i guess we can all stop playing cw's now
 
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#25
   12/4/2010 9:14 PM
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MARC IS EEN LUL!!
 
hahaha!!
 
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