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#26
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aahahahahhahaahahahaahaahaahahahahahaahahhahahahahahhaahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahh
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2/11/2013 6:43 AM
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hey are u going to leave this like this? no punishment?
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2/11/2013 7:45 PM
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Thanks for your judgment and thanks for the new rules.
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#30
2/12/2013 6:37 AM
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What about a punishment for reporting in wrong order? What about a rule that forbids people to gain points by reporting in wrong order? What about enabling the possibility to file AR"s from previous season? What about a rule that forbids ppl to spam nubs the last day? Seriously u just gonna ignore all the important stuff? And please tell me Im wrong but did u just change the rule after it was broken? Anyway without new decent rules Im out gl hf.
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2/12/2013 9:43 AM
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AHAHAHAHAH -100pts what a punishment, as BH said no punishment about reporting in wrong order 6 times that day, no ar's filed last day, ofc u know we are right but u just ignore us, u banned sorge who were decent guy with decent clan, wao were spamming 2v2s all days, u banned for pp 1st days ( doesnt matter at all ) , now the whole WAO clan left cw, no more 2v2s. Nice job fgts admins, now i get why the BT2DC patch never was a sucess. Clanwars admins and gr.org staff are incompetent, useless and hopeless, you are a bunch of dummy and fgts. You dont know anything and u make random decision. I quit cw. and dont know say "thx for leaving bla bla" then u come and suck my cok by asking me games Something funny is that the admin who took the decision is bfme2 admin 2 who is actually Deth who didnt played a game for 2 years and who logs on cw.cc each 3 months. You recruit new admins but u dont let them take decisions, while they know the community better than u ! Gratz idiots
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2/12/2013 9:50 AM
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by the way. fk off with ur pooprules ahah like ur fking pooprules would change anything ! cant believe it
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2/12/2013 9:53 AM
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quoting: Brainhackr What about a punishment for reporting in wrong order? What about a rule that forbids people to gain points by reporting in wrong order? What about enabling the possibility to file AR"s from previous season? What about a rule that forbids ppl to spam nubs the last day? Seriously u just gonna ignore all the important stuff? And please tell me Im wrong but did u just change the rule after it was broken? Anyway without new decent rules Im out gl hf.
Replying to post #31 2/12/2013 9:43 AM
quoting: takeiteasyAHAHAHAHAH -100pts what a punishment, as BH said no punishment about reporting in wrong order 6 times that day, no ar's filed last day, ofc u know we are right but u just ignore us, u banned sorge who were decent guy with decent clan, wao were spamming 2v2s all days, u banned for pp 1st days ( doesnt matter at all ) , now the whole WAO clan left cw, no more 2v2s. Nice job fgts admins, now i get why the BT2DC patch never was a sucess. Clanwars admins and gr.org staff are incompetent, useless and hopeless, you are a bunch of dummy and fgts. You dont know anything and u make random decision. I quit cw. and dont know say "thx for leaving bla bla" then u come and suck my cok by asking me games Something funny is that the admin who took the decision is bfme2 admin 2 who is actually Deth who didnt played a game for 2 years and who logs on cw.cc each 3 months. You recruit new admins but u dont let them take decisions, while they know the community better than u ! Gratz idiots
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You can not question the decision of admins, leave this game best for you... thx for waste your time 2 years like others :D
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2/12/2013 11:22 AM
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Secret your judgment is irrelevant or cares about you stupid guy hiding behind a ridiculous name so plz sucks me nuts and I'm offering my milkshake badger !
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#35
2/12/2013 12:54 PM
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For one, we can't make rules about people "dodging" and playing so called "lesser skilled" players. We can't make a rule where you need to report in the correct order. Down the years since we've been on Gameranger we expect people to REPORT in the correct order. You PLAY 1 GAME and report your game, simple. I've always made sure I did this while playing. For the first time in a few months the AR's weren't filed because we had 1 admin at the time and that was me. I had other things to deal with, so if you guys don't appreciate the effort we make to actually file your games & fix your matches, that's your choice. And Edgar there's no truth in what your saying actually.
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2/12/2013 1:08 PM
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Alpha you are too noob nd unknown player :/ sorry for u dont know u nub
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2/12/2013 1:21 PM
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and then I will not talk about that idiot you played the last month? I do not think so shut up stupid noob and eat my nuts AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHA !!
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2/12/2013 1:34 PM
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i hate kids  unfortunately here too much ..
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2/12/2013 1:37 PM
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I hate claning proguy unfortunately there's Secret AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA !
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2/12/2013 2:45 PM
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Jase , WAO clan ( mode kral+ruchan+sorge) left cw becauz u've banned sorge for no serious reason, maybe becauz he s a random player so u didnt take him seriously? wao clan was bringing pretty good 2v2 activity , and now u guys gave -100pts penality for Halet who cheated 10000000x more than no one ever did in cw. Nicely done guys, you just kicked 3 active playerz and good guys who could actually bring their 1.6 mates to cw. btw Halet cheated today again, he left a game vs Xperia and didnt report cauz he s rank 1 so he losses much pts gratz
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2/12/2013 2:58 PM
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quoting: BFME2 Admin-6For one, we can't make rules about people "dodging" and playing so called "lesser skilled" players. We can't make a rule where you need to report in the correct order. Down the years since we've been on Gameranger we expect people to REPORT in the correct order. You PLAY 1 GAME and report your game, simple. I've always made sure I did this while playing. For the first time in a few months the AR's weren't filed because we had 1 admin at the time and that was me. I had other things to deal with, so if you guys don't appreciate the effort we make to actually file your games & fix your matches, that's your choice. And Edgar there's no truth in what your saying actually.
Who is saying ur work is not appreciated? Why cant u make rules for these problems? I think it's really simple to make a rule so that the top 5 players can only play eachother last day and I also think its very simple to make a rule that punishes people when they report in wrong order. I dont see the problem really. And dont act like work of admin is such a heavy burden come on. It took u quite a while to discuss this matter about Halet and when u finaly ran out of imagination u just changed the rule he broke and encourage people to play 'fair and square'. All the bullpoop they did and u just give him -100 points decrease coz of not providing a replay. I tell u now if EVERYONE played 100% fair last 2 days ladder would look a lot different and some usual flaming but not as bad as this. As u can see there are a lot of people let down by this and u just say oh we cant do anything about it....
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2/12/2013 5:40 PM
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Edit: Nvm.
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#43
2/12/2013 7:26 PM
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quoting: BrainhackrReplying to post #35 2/12/2013 12:54 PM
quoting: BFME2 Admin-6For one, we can't make rules about people "dodging" and playing so called "lesser skilled" players. We can't make a rule where you need to report in the correct order. Down the years since we've been on Gameranger we expect people to REPORT in the correct order. You PLAY 1 GAME and report your game, simple. I've always made sure I did this while playing. For the first time in a few months the AR's weren't filed because we had 1 admin at the time and that was me. I had other things to deal with, so if you guys don't appreciate the effort we make to actually file your games & fix your matches, that's your choice. And Edgar there's no truth in what your saying actually.
Who is saying ur work is not appreciated? Why cant u make rules for these problems? I think it's really simple to make a rule so that the top 5 players can only play eachother last day and I also think its very simple to make a rule that punishes people when they report in wrong order. I dont see the problem really. And dont act like work of admin is such a heavy burden come on. It took u quite a while to discuss this matter about Halet and when u finaly ran out of imagination u just changed the rule he broke and encourage people to play 'fair and square'. All the bullpoop they did and u just give him -100 points decrease coz of not providing a replay. I tell u now if EVERYONE played 100% fair last 2 days ladder would look a lot different and some usual flaming but not as bad as this. As u can see there are a lot of people let down by this and u just say oh we cant do anything about it....
It's not simple, what your asking is actually really difficult. How is the clanwars system meant to know when games are reported in the wrong order? Sure, you could make it coded under the assumption that for every clan vs clan game there has to be 2 replays ,so it can differentiate between time stamps, but sometimes people only play one game. You can't expect Admins to check every single replay submitted manually. For your information the work of an admin is more difficult then the role that I played creating patches, you guys are so unreasonable it's not even funny. At least Gamereplays is semi-civilised Look at all the rage and childish crap they have to deal with. Fair? No. Players will always find loopholes in the rules system regardless of what rules are made, that is the nature of the competitive scene. Admin's are voluntary and they do a really good job as it is. I've no idea how Edgar isn't banned, if I was admin I wouldn't tolerate any of the language and flaming in here, half the community would probably be banned by me.
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2/12/2013 9:27 PM
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quoting: Brainhackr What about a punishment for reporting in wrong order? What about a rule that forbids people to gain points by reporting in wrong order? What about enabling the possibility to file AR"s from previous season? What about a rule that forbids ppl to spam nubs the last day? Seriously u just gonna ignore all the important stuff? And please tell me Im wrong but did u just change the rule after it was broken? Anyway without new decent rules Im out gl hf.
We won't introduce a rule to punish reporting in wrong order for the reasons Admin-6 stated above. If you dislike people gaining point advantage of reporting in wrong order, then simply check before EVERY match whether your opponent reported or not and if he didn't then wait with playing the rematch till he does. It really is that simple. The clanwars system doesn't allow AR to be filed after the tournament ist over. And it really doens't happen that often that the ARs don't get filed at the end of a month... You're suggesting a rule that forbids people to spam vs "lesser skilled" player the last day? Why? The clanwars point system was always about a mixture of quantity and quality. If we'd introduce such a rule people would start to spam vs "lesser skilled" players the days before the last day and what's gained then? Nothing. You're saying we're ignoring all the importan stuff. What is it? Tell me and I'll post my thought about your fresh ideas. And yes, we changed rule #9. Not because it was broken, lots of people did that in the past and didn't receive a punishment. Would be unfair to do it so nowadays. We changed the rule #9 because people starting to mom around. Now rule #9 is changed and everyone knows how things are going on. What decent rules do you want to see implemented?
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2/12/2013 9:43 PM
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Who is saying ur work is not appreciated? Why cant u make rules for these problems? I think it's really simple to make a rule so that the top 5 players can only play eachother last day and I also think its very simple to make a rule that punishes people when they report in wrong order. I dont see the problem really. And dont act like work of admin is such a heavy burden come on. It took u quite a while to discuss this matter about Halet and when u finaly ran out of imagination u just changed the rule he broke and encourage people to play 'fair and square'. All the bullpoop they did and u just give him -100 points decrease coz of not providing a replay. I tell u now if EVERYONE played 100% fair last 2 days ladder would look a lot different and some usual flaming but not as bad as this. As u can see there are a lot of people let down by this and u just say oh we cant do anything about it....
You suggest a rule that the top 5 player can only play eachother last day. At first it seems like a good rule, no "noobbashing & co", but on the second look a few questions come to my mind: - What happens when all the other 4 players dodge you? It means you can't play a single game last day? - What happens when you enter the top 5 last day? Does it mean from now on you can only play vs the other top 5 players? - What happens if a player accidently (oh yes by accidently I really mean accidently and not on purpore) plays vs the 6th ranked player? What punishment is appropriate? - By playing vs top 5 players you obviously refer to 1v1 games, but what about 2v2 games? He can only play vs top 5 2v2 player, too? How is a top 5 2v2 player determined? About the reporting in wrong order rule: - In order to judge the situation an admin needs to know how many games player A and player B played. You can never tell it. Sometimes its just 1 game, sometimes 3. You simply can't base your judgment on the premise that all people play 2 games just because most people do. - Let's say you somehow (OBJECTIVELY) get to know how many games they played. You need to have a look at every single replay in order to determine which game should be reported first.... oh yeah. I guess there aren't many people complaining about reporting in wrong order... And like I explained in my other post. Yes, we did give them a 100 pts decution because they couldn't provide a replay and this results in a violation of rule #10. What other "bullpop" is it that they've done? How rule #9 is(was) being handled I explained above. Again tell me decent rule which acutally works for both, for us admins and for you the players. Regards, BfME2 Admin-2
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2/13/2013 10:32 AM
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Yes u mention reasonable arguments but please think with me. I think it's possible to make a similar rule maybe not top 5 but top 10. And if you play 2v2 it's ok if one of the guys is not in top 10. This prevents people from playing rank 40 who hasn't played a single game that month. Or maybe some kind of tourney between top 5 players which determine the cups. But yes I guess the reporting in wrong order is unfixable and I should not trust people on this so soon before reset.
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Brain, we can't just make rules like you said. How are other players who want to play actually play vs others? The game really isn't active enough for these rules to be put in place. With 2v2s that's basically defeating the object of the "rule" you want implementing if other players who aren't in the top 10 play in those. If you come up with a realistic idea of what you want doing then it might be done. The players do have a say but you must think of genuine ideas.
We have always expected people to report in the correct order no matter what, some players don't think about reporting after each game, we can't process AM's because the games are in the wrong order. We're happy to hear your ideas anyway.
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I ment the idea to apply just on the last day. So that the top 10 players can only play eachother. Players outside top 10 dont have chance on top 3 anyways on the last day. Also, every last day all top players are on so they will have no problem finding games against eachother. A good example is last month. All top 5 players were on pretty much all day but I still saw some playing vs guys I never seen play a game that month. I think it can work since the players who have chance at top 3 will all be on last day. This way they HAVE to play eachother and not friends in their list who bareley ever play cw. Ofcourse for the whole rest of the month people are allowed to play vs anyone but it's just for the last day. Or what I said in my last post maybe a tournament. The top 5 is decided like any month but now they must play eachother to determine top 3. So top 3 is determined more by skill and not by who know the dirtiest tricks to get points. But ye I dont know in how far u guys can change stuff on here and if Im not realistic Im too bad :/
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I don't really get why the rule can't just be changed to: "If you switch clans after the first week of the month, you and your clan cannot play against your former clan for the rest of the tournament." There's like twenty people, clans are pretty set, and the only hopping done in the second half of the month is for purely opportunistic reasons. If you implement it like that, cases like the one with Halet and Panda are impossible, and the activity shouldn't really suffer under it. You have a week to decide what clan you want to be in for the rest of the tournament. If someone still wants to take you in after that, they know the price, and should be smart enough not to. If I remember correctly this was actually how it was done during the first year of BfME2 Clanwars (but then switching was only allowed on the first day, not the first week). That is off course assuming you guys have a way of checking what clans an account has been on. At any rate thanks for the positive and constructive posts.
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The purpose of this thread was about Halet and Panda. Seeing as this case is closed now, we can discuss possible rule changes in this thread.
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